A Revolutionary People & the Problems at Its Periphery
Posted by Mike E on July 13, 2009

There are times when a determined, revolutionary section of the people emerges. It is a rare and precious thing.
by Mike Ely
I think that the success and development of a revolution rests heavily on the emergence of a “revolutionary people” and its development, renewal and maturation through different stages of a complex revolutionary process. By revolutionary people, we have generally meant a section of the people that is, one way or another, to one degree or another, consciously for a revolutionary change — and increasingly willing to fight for that. In the great revolutions of the past, such forces have been “militant minorities” — when viewed against the whole of the population, but they have been real popular forces of many hundreds of thousands or millions, who are the core social basis for revolutionary parties, for new revolutionary ideas and for the revolution itself.
Part of the discussion of the Soviet purges (in the 1930s) is the story of the exhaustion, cooptation, demoralization and depoliticization of what had previously constituted a “revolutionary people” within the Soviet revolution. And similarly there is a story to tell, within the Chinese Cultural Revolution, about how an enthusiastic new “revolutionary people” emerged (and was “unleashed) in the early stages of the Maoist cultural revolution (1966-68) — and how the complexities of that struggle left them dispersed, bewildered, divided and unable to act as the 70s progressed, and as the capitalist roaders tightened their garrot-hold on the revolution.
In the process of a revolution there is, inherently i believe, a center and periphery — a central area (geographically and democraphically) where a revolutionary people sets the tone, influences broadly beyond their numbers, and actually reaches for the seizure of power. In Russia that was the urban working class areas of Petrograd, Moscow, and a few other major centers of revolutoinary working class activity. In China, this revolution arose from the great peasant storms of central China where the red army and the recurring red zones sprang up and spread (and connected with a broader revolutionary mood among anti-feudal and anti-imperialist intellectuals, merchants, students and workers). In the 1960s U.S., such a revolutionary people was emerging among Black people, and those from many nationalities who were awakened and energized by that Black Liberation struggle.
And then, there is inevitably a periphery to every such historic development — edges to the zones of revolution beyond which the masses have not been touched deeply, and where the revolution walks on very wobbly legs. In some ways we can see this great storm arising in the core areas of China — and see as its epiphenomena the events of Tibet and Xinjiang (but also in Korea and the secondary revolutionary aftershock in Indochina that became the Vietnam War.)
One of the contradictions that arises from this, is the contradiction facing the revolution (the revolutionary people and their organized parties) when they feel compelled to extend revolutionary powers to, or beyond, their own periphery. Clearly it is difficult to have revolutionary popular power in areas where there are few revolutionary people — and so “the revolution” at times (and this is not just occasionally) takes the form of the entry of the revolutionary army into sharply divided, or indifferent, or hostile areas.
And you can’t have a revolution without that — new revolutionary societies require contiguous land, and a new state and defined borders. And there are inevitably whole areas within the revolutionary state where the people themselves are indifferent or hostile to the change that has happened. At best, this breaks out as some polarization (where the wealthy and most backward are hostile, but where there are even if only in weak or embryonic ways the beginnings of a mass revolutionary movement). But there have been times in history where strategic areas of territory were seized by revolutionary forces — where they felt they couldn’t just be “ceded” to the encircling reactionaries — but where the population as a whole had no real sparks of revolution or where the revolutionary movement had only the barest foothold.
Examples from Soviet history:
There were many stretches of the Soviet Union’s countryside (in the civil war and 1920s) where there were literally no communists. Often there had been sympathy among peasants for the radical land reform (“land to the tiller”) — but not always. But such unorganized and low-level support often didn’t transfer to supporting the needs of the new revolutionary state (including the supply of grain to urban areas, helping to finance industrialization, or supporting the collectivization process). So in quite a few areas (within the soviet union, the revolution appeared as something external (and even alien). And that wasn’t only in the Central Asian Muslim areas.
The most important example is western Ukraine (which was (a) very conservative, (b) rooted in agriculture that was small family farming, not big feudal estates, and (c) among the most crucial and productive breadbasket regions of the new USSR). On one level, the Soviet revolution should perhaps have “let the western ukraine go” (i.e. let it merge with Poland) — on the simple basis that the revolution was not popular or supported there. But on a different level, it was very hard — because much of Russia is a very cold and very agriculturally unproductive, and the few “breadbaskets” of the southern areas are absolutely crucial for sustaining (and increasing) an urban working class population for socialist industrialization.
Similarly, it did not matter all that much what how the complex national-grid of “Transcaucasia” felt about the Soviet revolution — for strategic reasons, the central Soviet government was not going to allow the British interventionists to control the Baku/Caspian oil fields.
In every revolution, the parties and armies built among the “revolutionary people” face the problem of emerging as (essentially) occupiers of some areas that are politically inhospitable — and where the basis for “popular agency” (and even collaboration) are weak.
If there is a powerful revolution on the western and eastern coasts of North America, and in the big industrial ‘heartland” around the Great Lakes…. it is possible to imagine that the great “empty” and mountainous areas of Nevada, Montana, Idaho etc. might well becompe part of a new socialist society — even if (by themselves) the small populations of those areas incline toward rightwing republicanism (especially among the white people there).
In such situations, the revolutionary forces have a few options:
* They can work as rapidly as possible to create and empower an “indigenous” revolutionary movement — using the many instruments available to a state and army. (Education, patronage, backing of struggle by oppressed groups, encouraging of class consciousness among the exploited, building new pro-revolutionary political networks around the structures of food distribution and production, and so on.)
* They can administer from without, in the meanwhile, bringing in cadre and resources to direct the affairs of non-supportative.
* They can slow the pace of revolutionary change — so that the new society is not imposed on the people (in ways that produce backlash, longterm resentments, etc.) In other words, there will be one pace of revolutionary change in the storm centers of the revolution (changes in education, property, social relations, laws, prisons etc.), but quite possibly a much more relaxed pace in the more backward areas. (Or, in the case of Tibet from 1949-59, a virtual freeze on the transformation of some very basic things — like the political and social dominance of the parasitic lamaist monestaries).
And again: this is not just a matter of nationalities (whether “internal” or “external”). It will be a contradiction that emerges throughout a “checkerboard” of counties, suburbs, townships, key institutions, and whole regions in any large revolution.
And then the problem becomes particularly acute, when new revolutionary forces don’t arise (within these areas) to take up and lead the transformations there (and overthrow the hegemony of the backward).
At the time of the Chinese revolution, there were no communists in Tibet. By the time of the disturbances of 1959, and the overthrow of the Dalai Lama, some communists had been trained (often from among serfs, sometimes from among former monks etc.) — but accounts question whether among them too there weren’t still a great deal of reverence for the lamaist customs and beliefs. And it proved very hard in many areas (western Ukraine is a big example) to develop revolutionary movements in time to serve the needs of the revolution. In other words, there was a dilemma in Russia’s “breadbaskets” of how to build popular revolutionary movements, if at the same time the revolution had decided to undergo neckbreak industrialization (with all the demands that raised for grain surpluses moving to the cities and new workers). The communist structure (the state, the party, the army) all appeared to the farmers as taxmen seeking their grain — and seemed unrelated to views a great many of the farmers’ had of their personal interests or of what society should be.
In short, revolution requires “popular agency” — and when that has been extinguished, the hopes for revolutionary advancement (or survival) are very dim.
But that is extremely uneven: because the enthusiastic support for the revolution varies:
a) depending on social group
b) depending on the unevenness of geography (and historical areas, like the U.S. Deep South).
c) depending on nationality (in the USSR, there were even cases where some nationalities could be generally considered “progressive” and others were rather harshly counterrevolutionary).
d) depending on what stage the revolution was at (”land to the tiller”? Sure! End the veiling of women? Ah, that’s another question.)
e) depending on the needs and methods of the core revolutionary forces.
And there is often an ongoing need to GENERATE new “popular agency” (new “revolutionary people”) — first in those areas relatively untouched by the revolutionary storm, and then throughout society at each stage of the revolution, as new polarizations and new social opposition emerge.
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Tell No Lies said
I’ve asked before, but what is the geneology of the concept of “a revolutionary people”? has it been used by anybody other than the RCP? I think its a potentially potent concept and would like to know if there has been more written on it.
Mike E said
It is something I have only seen as a concept around the RCP. I first saw it in an Avakian essay in Revolution magazine (from the 1980s? which we could dig up at some point, but not today). And, like you, I think the concept has value — and need more development and discussion than it has gotten so far.
sepia tone said
I have not yet had a chance to catch up on the discussions happening around this, but I just wanted to say how refreshing I found this piece. It poses real questions that have faced past revolutions and need to concern future revolutionaries engaged in actual politics, rather than either glossing them over uncritically or simply dismissing these worldly concerns as the problems of “Stalinism”.
land said
This article has much to do with having roots among the people while at the same time being clear on how different situations are and how revolutionaries need to be clear on how they are different.
In the Tibet article I remember one part where it talks about how Mao was very specific in directions to the red youth about what they could do and where they should be more cautious.
I have always tried to figure out how in a country like this with east,west,middle, the New Orleans territory and pockets along the way how revolutionaries should organize themselves.
And the different contradictions in every part. There was a book written during the Bush years called what’s the matter with Kansas. It was interesting although I didn’t really agree with alot. But it posed the question why did these Kansas farmers who were losing their farms because of the Bush administration vote heavily for him because they distrusted the “liberals” around the democratic party.
Not sure how many of us are in Kansas but if we were there what would we do. How would we meet the revolutionary people. WOuld these me mainly immigrants? I thought of this off the discussion in the article off the “breadbaskets” sustaining the urban working class popularion.
In the 60’s Abbie Hoffman went from town to town organizing along the way. With no crusty ways no matter where he was.
This is a great article.
Gilamonster said
I just want to add a quick word about one claim here that’s been made before on this site: “At the time of the Chinese revolution, there were no communists in Tibet.”
I believe this is incorrect. Anyone who’s interested in this question should read “A Tibetan Revolutionary: The Political Life and Times of Bapa Phuntso Wangye,” published by the University of California Press a few years ago. It’s the story of Puntso Wangye, a Tibetan who organized for revolution and founded the Tibetan Communist Party a number of years before 1949.
In that book Phunwang tells about his education in Tibet and China; about founding the Tibetan Communist Party, organizing in Tibet, and searching for assistance from Indian, Chinese and Soviet Communists (with little success); and how the Chinese CP forced the parties to merge a year or two before Liberation (if I’m remembering the dates right). (Somewhat further afield from the topic at hand here, it also covers his work during the 50s and 60s, the years he spent in jail during the Cultural Revolution, and his uneasy relationship with the Party since he was set free in the late 70s or 80s.)
To be sure, the Tibetan CP and the number of Tibetan revolutionaries generally was tiny. Their numbers were negligible compared to a mass party of millions like the CCP. But if people are interested in questions of how revolutionary movements or consciousness can break out in conservative areas like Tibet, we should pay more attention to the sparks that actually were lit.
Mike E said
I look forward to digging up and reading the book you suggest.
However, it is pretty clear that there were no communists in Tibet. There were a few Tibetans who were communists, but they were not IN Tibet (they were in the Communist movement outside tibet.)
Certainly, in any way that matters, we can agree on the main point: That tibet is an example of a real contradiction — when a powerfulrevolution sweeps over a country, including over parts that (for historical reasons) have been essentially isolated from that revolution.
We can (and perhaps should) share information on Phunwang, and whether his activities were significant. But it really does not affect the essential point here: That often in radical revolutions, there have been geographic parts of larger countries where the revolution had no roots or popular support — and (more importantly) where such support had to be creatively built AFTER THE REVOLUTION ITSELF.
The Bolsheviks sent waves of young revolutionary youth intothe countryside, and sought to build a new revolutoinary core among poor peasants. In china, the Maoist government developed both government cadre from the existing lamaist elite, and then (as rapidly as they could) new communist cadre (largely from among freed young serfs.) And when the counterrevolutionary incidents broke out in 1959, both of these cohorts rushed back to Tibet — and played their different roles.
Overall, the Tibetan experience is complex — there were some inroads made on the basis of liberating the serfs, and this formed the basis for considerable Tibetan involvement in the storms of the cultural revolution (and the uprooting of monastic control.)
Timo said
However the new proletarian state will decide to deal with backward regions I think it is very important to avoid marginalizing the populations of these backward areas. Of course we can not allow backward and revisionist ideas to steer the course of society, but we must not make these people as if they are not welcome. I think we must embrace and welcome these people but of course not there backward ideas. Perhaps establishing communal farms in these areas by sending volunteers from other revolutionary regions may be of use. What I am saying is not to force communal farms but establishing some working examples for backward areas. People should then be allowed and encouraged to join and help strengthen the revolutionary microcosms in the backward areas.
Gilamonster said
I’m not sure why you say it’s pretty clear that there were no communists in Tibet. This book is the story of one man (and his comrades) who were exactly that. I don’t want to overstate their importance. They did spend time abroad as well as organizing on the ground in Tibet. However, they also developed and tried out a number of different strategies for that organizing within Tibet. It’s been a while since I read that book so I can’t cite all the details, but as I recall that their efforts mostly ranged from unsuccessful to disastrous.
We certainly can agree about the existence of that very real contradiction that you pointed to. I mention Phunwang’s story because he not only observes that contradiction, but also offers some concrete suggestions as to how it could or should have been addressed in the concrete conditions of Tibet in the era of Liberation.
Phunwang critiques the CCP for forcing the Tibetan CP to merge into them. He suggests that if the Tibetan CP had been supported and built up on a continuing independent basis, many of the Han-chauvinist errors that were committed in Tibet (in his analysis) could have been avoided, and Tibetan-Han ethnic conflicts could have been diminshed instead of being exacerbated as they sometimes have been, especially in more recent decades.
What he suggests is one possible way to develop indigenous revolutionaries within a distinct conservative area at the periphery of a major revolution. In his estimation, the policy of merger set back the development of Tibetan revolutionaries by eliminating their independent organization, while they remained too few in number to correct mistaken ideas and practices within the CCP concerning Tibet.
Anyway, I’m not trying to sell Phunwang’s analysis or his book (honestly, I don’t get a commission!) The problem pointed out in this post remains very real and I don’t mean to suggest that one book or one man has a silver bullet. But he does offer some rich experience and analysis to help us get into the specific qualities of one of the key historical situations mentioned in this post.
Mike E said
From the research I did on Tibet, it has been commonly said that the Communist Party of China had no members in Tibet.
Part of the issue is that Phunwang seems to have lived and worked outside the area generally considered Tibet. There rather large areas of western China that have populations that include ethnic Tibetans. And Phunwang appears to have done some political work there (between 1940 and 1949).
As I mentioned above, the various historians of this process mentioned that there were a few individual Tibetan communists working outside of Tibet (in ethnically mixed areas), but none within the core Tibetan areas themselves.
However Phunwang only moved into central Tibet after 1949 when (as with the few other ethnic Tibetans) he moved into Lhasa.
Melvyn Goldstein writes in his introduction to Phunwang’s book that Phunwang fought for a “Tibet that would encompass all Tibetans in Kham, Amdo, and Tibet proper and would be ruled by Tibetans.” This demand for a “Greater Tibet” required annexation to the core of Tibet wide areas throughout western China. And it was in the Kham that the CIA dropped arms and supplies to organize uprisings of Tibetan traditionalists and feudalists.
In the late fifties, CIA financed and organized operations spread in Tibetan ethnic areas, provoking armed resistance to land reform in several cases. This culminated with the events in Lhasa itself, when the Dalai Lama was deposed and fled to India (with a CIA escort). It was in these events that Phunwang was arrested and imprisoned (because he was considered allied with the counterrevolutionary forces). It is of course hard to evaluate the details of all this.
Facts matter, of course. And we should be precise and accurate.I don’t know the size, significance or political character of the group you are mentioning. And I will be interested in reading about them. The Tibetan expert who has interviewed Phunwang (Melvyn Goldstein) is someone whose work I have always respected, and used in my own writings on Tibetan history.
On the other hand, whether there was a small group at some point within Tibet does not change the basic point: There was a communist revolution in China that had no roots in Tibet. Tibet had been highly isolated and backward. There had been no newspapers (for example), other than a few sheets circulated at the top of the elite. Illiteracy was almost universal. The valleys of tibet are extremely islated from each other, and very little news of the outside world came in. And the masses of serfs were utterly cut off from the events of the world (the revolution in china, world war 2, japanese invasion, the British domination of India, the impact of socialist revolution on the world, etc.)
All of this started to change as a result of the Chinese revolution of 1949. The first road was built into Tibet. Newspapers and trade goods arrived etc. And the beginnings of wage labor, money economy, and the beginning of agitation for the liberation of serfs.